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	<title>Comments on: Open access publishing: response from Laszlo Babai</title>
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		<title>By: A birthday party &#171; Peter Cameron&#39;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A birthday party &#171; Peter Cameron&#39;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] have come across Laci&#8217;s name here before. He is (so far) the only guest contributor; he wrote a reply to my rant about open-access publishing. Also, he comes into my story about Paul Erd&#337;s; Laci [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have come across Laci&#8217;s name here before. He is (so far) the only guest contributor; he wrote a reply to my rant about open-access publishing. Also, he comes into my story about Paul Erd&#337;s; Laci [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Cameron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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P.S. Laci was too modest to mention the free journal
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theoryofcomputing.org/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Theory of Computing&lt;/a&gt;,
of which he is editor-in-chief.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Laci was too modest to mention the free journal<br />
<a href="http://www.theoryofcomputing.org/index.html" rel="nofollow">Theory of Computing</a>,<br />
of which he is editor-in-chief.</p>
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		<title>By: cameroncounts</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 11:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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I am very grateful to Laci for this response. I am largely in agreement with what he says.


In my original document I identified the alternative to &quot;open access&quot; journals with page charges as the arXiv and institutional repositories, simply because this was the alternative considered in the EPSRC announcement. But as Laci points out, there are many journals which are either free (e.g.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.combinatorics.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Electronic Journal of Combinatorics&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;) or comparatively low-cost (e.g. journals from learned societies such as the London Mathematical Society). The first option is ideal in many respects but puts heavy demands on the volunteers who run the journals (and deserve the gratitude of the community for this). The second solution is also important. But there is an issue here too. At present the learned societies derive much of their income from their publications, especially journals. They may be vulnerable to a change in the model for funding journals or to pressures to make them freely available.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very grateful to Laci for this response. I am largely in agreement with what he says.</p>
<p>In my original document I identified the alternative to &#8220;open access&#8221; journals with page charges as the arXiv and institutional repositories, simply because this was the alternative considered in the EPSRC announcement. But as Laci points out, there are many journals which are either free (e.g.  <a href="http://www.combinatorics.org" rel="nofollow"><i>Electronic Journal of Combinatorics</i></a>) or comparatively low-cost (e.g. journals from learned societies such as the London Mathematical Society). The first option is ideal in many respects but puts heavy demands on the volunteers who run the journals (and deserve the gratitude of the community for this). The second solution is also important. But there is an issue here too. At present the learned societies derive much of their income from their publications, especially journals. They may be vulnerable to a change in the model for funding journals or to pressures to make them freely available.</p>
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